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(ns learning.turtle.intro)
;; # Learning Clojure Programming in a Beginner-Friendly Way
;;
;; Tim and I were revisiting thoughts about [Power Turtle](https://power-turtle.com/),
;; which we created and [talked about in 2017](https://youtu.be/Y3-53JoGPE4?si=PPwOxwh63Rb2qse0).
;;
;; * what makes it work
;; * interactivity
;; * Japanese colleague (Yoshikatsu)'s uncle's friend is a teacher. Saw that boys got really engaged by trying to crash/push things
;; * Yoshikatsu's observation: learning is through hands-on playing
;; * Yoshikatsu is a successful game app maker
;; * Observation of the difference in what engaged boys vs. girls (girls liked the storytelling aspect in an exercise to create animation)
;; * How do you ensure an interactive environment is set up to support the different avenues of interest
;; * storytelling; extreme pushing of boundaries; etc?
;; * Reflection: it's easy to be humbled & surprised at what aspects of a task people latch onto
;; * This is the value of the open-ended nature of Logo's interactive environment
;; * visual
;; * A picture is worth 1000 words
;; * notebook style of programming
;; * worth thinking of this as different from REPL (even if similar)
;; * examples
;; * Clay
;; * Maria Cloud
;; * there is a storytelling aspect by virtue of there being text
;; * regarding clojure-turtle: the explanatory text lends itself well to a notebook env
;; * open question: can a notebook handle animation?
;; * downsides:
;; * more specific
;; * more complicated (setup & use) - these could be overcome
;; * notebook style vs. Blockly style
;; * Neil Fraser - concern about Blockly become a walled garden unwittingly
;; * did a lot with Blockly Games to help learners to escape the walled garden and learn more of other types of programming
;; * In my own words, block-style coding is like a crutch: helps, but limits getting better
;; * Observations on Maria Cloud
;; - not very well used (is that true?)
;; - can't use your own text editor
;; - whereas Clay lets you
;; - although for a beginner, maybe that's okay/good
;; * generally: UI Block coding / Notebook environment vs. REPL/text coding
;; - if in a beginner-friendly environment (block coding / notebook), you still need to enable users to progress to text coding
;; * Notebook + Turtle
;; * nowhere in the wild that combines turtle with notebooks
;; * Pros & Cons of options
;; * Maria Cloud - output webpage is entirely editable and executable, but not sure how to integrate new deps into env
;; * Clay - setup requires non-beginner knowledge (eng-level), output is static
;; * Power Turtle - point of comparison: no setup, no storytelling aspect
;; * Maria Cloud option
;; * can we include power-turtle editing environments' deps into project?
;; * can we include localized (translated) form names in your native language, ex: using cban?
;; * can we adapat cban to be a plugin for deps.edn as we did for Leiningen (lein-cban)?
;; * Maria Cloud makes it easy to create
;; * Maria Cloud doesn't distinguish between creating & publishing & editing mode